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John Paul II pedophile priest in Orange County: In the rectory and in the sacristy

John Paul II led his John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army for over 26 years together with the genius cover-up strategies by the Opus Dei at the Vatican see the John Paul II Millstone

Benedict XVI as Cardinal Ratzinger God's Rottweiler silenced the Jesuit Jon sobrino who critcized the papacy of John Paul II see The legacy of the pedophilia-Achilles Heel of John Paul II thrives on in the United States of America and therefore he must never be called a "saint" in American soil.


Published: July 28, 2009

In the rectory and in the sacristy

Retired priest of Orange diocese arrested on felony child-abuse charges in sexual molestation allegations dating back to 1992

Police arrested a 75-year-old retired priest of the Orange diocese on July 20 as he was playing cards at Leisure World in Seal Beach, the Orange County District attorney announced in a press release. Fr. Denis Lyons was charged with repeatedly sexually abusing a boy in the rectory and the sacristy of St. John the Baptist Catholic Church in Costa Mesa between 1992 and 1995, the district attorney said.

Fr. Lyons had previously been charged in 2003 with the repeated sexual abuse of another boy between 1978 and 1981, but those charges were dismissed following a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that a California law extending the statute of limitations in such cases was unconstitutional. In addition, said the district attorney, two other alleged victims of the now retired priest provided corroboration of the molestations but charges were never filed because of the statute of limitations. The three boys, said the district attorney, attended parish school at St. John the Baptist, where Fr. Lyons served as a priest.

Following his arrest, Fr. Lyons was booked into the county jail at Harbor Justice Center in Newport Beach on $100,000 bail, charged with four felony counts of lewd acts on a child under the age of 14, said the district attorney. In addition, a charge of “substantial sexual conduct with a child” was added, which would require a mandatory sentence of 14 years if Fr. Lyons is convicted. According to the Orange County Sheriff’s Department, Fr. Lyons posted bail and was released from jail at 4 p.m. on Thursday, July 23.

In addition to working as a priest at St. John the Baptist in Costa Mesa, Fr. Lyons also served at St. Edwards the Confessor in Dana Point and at St. Mary’s by the Sea in Huntington Beach, the district attorney said. Investigators have asked that anyone with information pertinent to the case or anyone who believes he or she may have been a victim of sexual abuse by Fr. Lyons to contact the DA’s investigative supervisor, Tim Craig, at (714) 347-8558, or Costa Mesa detective Mike Manson at (714) 754-5360.

According to the Los Angeles Times, the Orange diocese earlier this year announced it had reached a settlement with a 24-year-old man who sued the diocese, alleging he had been abused repeatedly by Fr. Lyons while he was in the second grade at St. John the Baptist parish school. KTLA News reported, “Several people have accused Lyons of sexual abuse, prompting the Diocese of Orange to pay out $4 million to settle such sex abuse claims.”

Ryan Lilyengren, a spokesman for the diocese, told the Times that Fr. Lyons had been removed from active ministry in 2002. "Rev. Lyons has not been permitted to return to ministry or the Diocese of Orange in any public capacity since his removal," Lilyengren told the Times.

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Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:22 AM By C. M. Henry
From comments by Ryan Lilyengren, a spokesman for the Diocese of Orange it sounds like Denis Lyons is just another retired priest IN GOOD STANDING & SUPPORTED BY THE CHURCH. Is this true? Why is it that he and other like him continue to be supported by the diocese which means money from ordinary peoples' pockets, even those abused or their families who have never come forward and chose to continue their church membership? Why hasn't Ryan been laicized and defrocked? And who paid his bail when he should remain in jail as a known sexual predator?
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:22 AM By Richard Flores

Who has paid for all of his legal bills? It sounds as if this man is sick and should have been admitted for psychiatric care a long time ago! However, we all know how the anti-Catholic media loves to nail a priest! I guess that I look at this many ways...First, there is never any excuse for this type of sin...ever! Second, if he did it, I don't doubt that someone knew about his problem long before it was revealed! Third, I also know that many of the claims against priests are false. My first question would be, "Did he ever confess his sins to his confessor?" If so, his confessor is guilty, too. (He is bound to STOP any type of felony that a priest is involved with by whatever means are necessary. At the very least, he should have been immediately relieved if he is guilty.) I just pray that anyone associated with this comes clean and this gets resolved properly. If he is guilty, he's guilty. If not, then defend him. As the bible demands, we must be above reproach!
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:02 AM By Kay Ebeling
Where do all these priests and bishops get the money for bail and high powered attorneys? They always seem to have it. . . Kay Ebeling, Producer City of Angels Network

Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:55 AM By Greg Bullough
Mr. Flores: How do you "know that many of the claims against priests are false?" Or is that just as you would wish it to be? The fact is that juries as well as dioceses and religious orders paying settlements out of court don't believe that these claims are false. And in many, if not most, cases when you look at the historical record you find that multiple accusers have made multiple accusations totally independently and unaware of one another. In many cases only to be lied to and told "you're the first" or "you're the only one." How is the media "anti Catholic?" Does telling the truths which the bishops, monsignors, and superiors have as a matter of policy tried to cover up for decades make them so? And who is more "anti Catholic" anyway. Let's not forget, shall we that the vast, vast, majority of abuse victims were Catholic kids, many more devout that most (which put them in harm's way more often and made them more vulnerable). So it was Catholics who were injured, and Catholics who were not protected by those in power. So who is "anti Catholic?" The abusive clerics who destroy faith and psyches, the clergy who protected them, rather than the victims, or the media who report these crimes as they would report a Watergate or a Manson murder? As to confession, what if the confessor is himself an abuser? We know that these guys operated together. How can someone who has his own dirty laundry find a means, or even a desire, to air one of this brother priests' transgressions? Before you make pronouncements, take time to learn about these issues from the inside, with your eyes and ears open.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:04 AM By Abeca Christian
This news just made my stomach want to puke. God have mercy on us. God help this innocent child heal from this.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:17 AM By Clean House
The Diocese of Orange is not interested in holiness. The Diocese of Orange needs a thorough housecleaning. There will be continued problems until we receive a holy new Bishop and Catholics refuse to pay for sin in the collection basket and finance expensive homosexual lifestyles.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:30 AM By Willi H
The Bishops of this country never cease to amaze me. They cannot admit they were wrong about letting certain types into the priesthood since V2 and are willing to bankrupt their diocese instead of driving these predators from our midst! Fr. Lyons is entitled to his day in court but if he is to prison!
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:52 AM By lome
Another one bites the dust. It will be an act of mercy to deny gays to enter the seminaries. Putting a sex confused and the diehards among unsuspecting and trusting novices will be toooooo much temptations. Only exposes them to damnation.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:36 AM By JLS

If he goes to prison, there he'll meet some who were seriously abused as children. He does not look too healthy, so maybe this will be his time to begin penance.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:50 AM By JLS

Greg B., I'm not convinced that the victims were the most devout. Devotion brings with it the power and authority of God in defense of oneself. It is more likely that the victims were betrayed by slothful parents and communities which worshiped the clergy or ignored them. It is tantemount to selling one's child to the pimps of temple prostitution. Look at the fact that half the Catholic voters installed the arch abortionist Obama as the most powerful ruler on earth. It is the same type of naiivite' that entrusts children to perverts. Parents have the obligation to God and neihgbor to protect their children at all costs. This requires them to stay married, keep to devotion instead of drunkeness, keep up to the minute with the child's daily life, sacrifice their time goofing around to spending it wisely with and for their children. This goes for the neighbors and parish acquaintenances of people whose marriages ended or been widowed, and make sure that children are accounted for: This is why priests are called "Father" and not "Dude". Now even if victims themselves were devout, it is likely that those who were charged to protect them were negligent, and share in the sin that cries out to God for vengeance. An example of how people should protect the innocent can be found in various saints who gave their lives keeping the Sacred Hosts from sacrilege. But now look at how well the Blessed Sacrament is protected from sacrilege, what with the scumbucket politicians claiming to be Catholic yet being rabid abortionists and sodomite advocates and still being given Holy Communion: This is where the buck stops, the perpetrators of sacrilege against the most defenseless of all, the most humble of all, Jesus Christ both unborn baby and God.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:54 AM By Frank A. Lostaunau
The rape of children by clergy is about criminal behavior that harms children and that has been covered up by bishops. Thank you courageous survivors for speaking and reporting this child molester to the police.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:33 PM By Gregory
Richard Flores, Canon 983 states, "The sacramental seal is inviolable. Accordingly, it is absolutely wrong for a confessor in any way to betray the penitent, for any reason whatsoever, whether by word or in any other fashion."
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:49 PM By In The Choir Loft
That's where most of my abuse took place. And sometimes down on the church floor, in the Divine Presence of the Blessed Sacrament. And when the abuse was discovered, I was branded the aggressor.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:16 PM By Gregory
Also Canon 984, "A confessor is prohibited completely from using knowledge acquired from confession to the detriment of the penitent even when any danger of revelation is excluded. A person who has been placed in authority cannot use in any manner for external governance the knowledge about sins which he has received in confession at any time."

Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:39 PM By Georgina
I had lunch with some other Catholic ladies yesterday. One lady remembered that, when this Father Lyons used to say Mass at her parish, he would insist on placing the Blessed Sacrament on the tongues of the recipients, refusing to place the Consecrated Host in the palms of their hands. I found this to be significant because a pedophile priest that was assigned to our parish was also very, "static" about conserative ritualism, and yet lived a life of sacriligous depravity. Leaves one to wonder what goes on in the scambled minds of these men who have spent years in study and training in order to serve the Lord, yet cannot tell the difference between good and evil as it pertains to them and the way they personally live their lives.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:24 PM By Mark from PA

To lome: We don't know if this man was sexually active at all with adults, male or female. He was a pedophile. It is not fair to punish one person for the sins of another. The point isn't gays in the ministry. Priests need to be faithful to their vow of celibacy. Would you kick heterosexual men out of the seminaries because some priests cheat with women? Greg, I agree with most of what you said, it is sad but true. Those priests who abused and bishops who covered for them should hang their heads in shame. Don't blame the media, they have done us a service, hopefully bringing this out in the open has saved numerous innocents from this garbage.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:16 PM By Bob
The priest will go to jail, no doubt. But what about the bishop who moved him from one church to another, who hid the pedophilia of other priest. He too belongs in jail. In jail for life is not to short. These bishops are the ones who are trully depraved. Let's get them out of the nursing homes and put them in jail where they belong. At this point, in this country, bishops have no moral authority. We need to clean house and bring the chruch back to the people.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:00 PM By MarkF

Mark from PA, you are willfully blind. This man preyed only on boys. As that Church documents said, there is a connection here between homosexuality and the abuse. You act as if homosexuality had nothing to do with this. Your standards would put these same people back into contact with kids. You can't get a group of homosexuals together without getting a lot of child abuse, substance abuse and. dissent. But you're right, we don't know if he was sexually active with adults. If we knew that he was, how much would you bet that he was only sexually active with men? I'd bet $1,000 or more. Thank God that Pope Benedict is in charge here. And we don't know why the bishops covered this up. They've been mostly silent. That awful ex-bishop from Milwaukee is a homosexual and he covered up other homosexuals who abused young boys. Hmmm. Perhaps there's a pattern here.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:12 PM By JLS
PA, the point is indeed "gays in ministry": the Pope says no.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:14 PM By JLS

Gregory, a confessor can prohibit a homosexualist from the Sacraments and can tell him not to apply to seminary, or have you never heard of penance?
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:54 PM By JLS

I still maintain that the purpose of Vatican II was to out the corruption by tearing away the veneer used by unscroupulous blasphemers to hide their sins and crimes. When the Pope was a Cdl he wrote that he preferred the Latin Mass and hoped for its return, but thought it would not happen for a long time if ever. It likely will take a long time to roust the pervs out of the hierarchy to a satisfactory degree.
Posted Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:05 PM By mark4four

Willi H, would you kindly explain the connection between a 75-year-old priest’s molestation of children and “letting certain types into the priesthood since V2”? Vatican II ran from the early to mid 1960s. Unless this man entered seminary at a very late age, he most likely was let into the priesthood via admission to the seminary a good five to 10 years before the Council even started.

Posted Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:46 AM By Victoria
JLS, this article is about children being raped by a priest, and you go on about "scumbucket" politicians and abortion. I thought we were not allowed to go off topic on this blog. Stick with the story at hand... Scumbucket priests who rape and sodomize little children.

Posted Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:41 AM By canisius
Mark from PA is again defending the sodomite, yes it as about gays in the priesthood. No gay men should be admitted to the priesthood, it is already infested with enough of them. Allowing gays in the priesthood is like allowing alcoholics to be bartenders. Homosexuality is a disease


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